The following is a discussion I had with a Data Domain customer - Rob Carlisi, Systems Engineer for Orange County Public Schools (OCPS).
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A couple of things to point out:
OCPS has eliminated using tapes completely. They are using Data Domain Collection Replication for their off-site disaster recovery.
Tony Asaro: Rob, welcome and I appreciate you participating this discussion. Please give us a background on your company.
Rob Carlisi: I work at Orange County Public Schools in Orlando, Florida. We’re the 11thlargest school district in the country. The amount of online storage that we have is a little over 100 terabytes and the amount of backup data we have on Data Domain is about 450 terabytes.
Tony Asaro: And what is your role with the company, Rob?
Rob Carlisi: I’m a systems engineer and I’ve been here for a little over 6 years. Our group is primarily responsible for anything that happens inside the data center that’s not network related. I’m responsible for the backup/restore environment, SAN and fibre infrastructure as well as installing and maintaining the servers themselves.
Tony Asaro: Start out by giving us some examples of how Data Domain has provided real value to your company.
Rob Carlisi: Yeah, I’ve quite a few examples. Recoveries with Data Domain are much faster than our previous environment. The restores start as soon as you click a button instead of waiting for tapes to mount or waiting for tape drives to become available. The footprint of our solution went from around 6 to 8 feet of floor space down to a single rack with Data Domain. Data Domain gave us the ability also to replicate all of our backups to our DR site so we have another set of Data Domain boxes sitting at our offsite location that we replicate to every day. We also use RMAN with Oracle to backup all of our databases directly to Data Domain. Since we’ve been using that method, we’ve seen up to a 60x compression rates on those backups. And also over the next few months we’re going to implement VRanger which will backup all of our VM’s over to Data Domain.
Tony Asaro: Rob, tell us how Data Domain has improved the overall economic effectiveness within your IT operations?
Rob Carlisi: Data Domain has enabled us to save exponentially actually on the amount of tape we would have had to purchase if it wasn’t Data Domain and de-duplication. We also went from a 10 to 15 day retention policy on all of our backups to a 30 to 40 day retention.
Tony Asaro: How has implementing Data Domain changed your usage of tape now and in the future?
Rob Carlisi: Well, tape no longer exists in our environment and we’re confident that it’s going to stay that way.
Tony Asaro: Rob, tell us about how you’ve leveraged Data Domain for offsite Disaster Recovery.
Rob Carlisi: Before we had implemented Data Domain, we weren’t replicating any of our data off site. When we decided to start replicating with Data Domain, we did it on a collection basis so anything that touches the primary box, gets replicated to the destination box on our off site location. We set it up the first day to replicate and it’s pretty much been hands off since then. We’ve had the remote site down. When we bring it back up, it just makes that connection automatically and starts replicating again. We’ve never had any lag and we’ve never had a problem talking to the remote site.
This solution actually got all of our backups from our entire environment off site. We’re able to restore at a DR site back to full throttle.
Tony Asaro: Data Domain’s data dedupe actually enabled your disaster recovery strategy because it reduces the bandwidth costs.
Rob Carlisi: Actually that’s true. After it does its de-duplication and compression and clean up, you’re not actually transferring that much data across the line compared to what it actually backs up every night. It saves on money as well as time to replicate because when you’re not moving that much data across the LAN or the WAN it doesn’t take that long to do you’re not too far behind your production environment.
Tony Asaro: Why didn’t you use primary storage replication versus Data Domain to do this?
Rob Carlisi: Well, one was the cost and we also liked an appliance environment. We found that it was a lot easier to expand a Data Domain environment rather that a primary storage environment and we just like the flexibility that Data Domain gave us. Also, the primary reason was the de-duplication technology that they had was far superior than anything else.